Posts by Newly Enlightened

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A new JW here!

by Taken in

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i am a jw (still active).

i like discussing with others and i think this is a great place to do so.

hopefully this can be fun and a learning experience for all of us.

Newly Enlightened

Welcome to the board. I am technically a current JW, but am trying to fade. Just take your time, relax, breathe and start your journey to find the 'real' truth. jwfacts.com is a good place to start.

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The 24 Elders in Revelation are NOT the anointed......

by EndofMysteries in

today i just thought of this.

i had written a thread about the false teaching of the anointed being resurrected already.

anyway, the wt assumes the 24 elders in revelation are the 144,000, and the assumption is merely because both sit on thrones.

Newly Enlightened

AGuest: According to Rev 11:15,16 the 24 elders could not be humans [Abraham, Noah, Moses, etc] from the Earth. The Book of Enoch mentions at least 7 or 8 Archangels by name.

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The 24 Elders in Revelation are NOT the anointed......

by EndofMysteries in

today i just thought of this.

i had written a thread about the false teaching of the anointed being resurrected already.

anyway, the wt assumes the 24 elders in revelation are the 144,000, and the assumption is merely because both sit on thrones.

Interesting discussion. I was just talking about this with my husband. We read the Book of Enoch, which mentions several detailed accounts of how archangel's interact with Jesus & humans. Mentioning several by name. We believe that the 24 elders are the archangels that serve Jesus and around the throne. That is why they are 'around' the throne.

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Sickening Dilemma

by ItsMyLife in

i would like to have your opinions on what i should do about a situation please.. i have recently discovered that a 'brother' in the congregation (which i no longer attend) is a child molester.

i've seen documentation from his psychiatrist dated a few years ago, stating that he doesn't feel that this person is likely to offend again.

the 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again.

Newly Enlightened

Call the POLICE . Pedophiles is one of the crimes that even psychiatrist recognize as un-rehabilitable [? i probably slaughtered that spelling]

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First post / 1914 info

by whichway2go in

my first post here after about 6 months of lurking.

i will comment more and give some more info later, but i am still active, and looking for my way to exit.

i had a question that i'm hoping someone can help with.

Newly Enlightened

Also, forgot to add.... in those same articles Nov/2011 pg 24 the footnote right above the picture of clay tablets reads: "Business tablets exist for all the years traditionally attributed to the Neo-Babylonian kings. When the years that these kings ruled are totaled and a calculation is made back from the last Neo-Babylonian king, Nabonidus, the date reached for the destruction of Jerusalem is 587 B.C.E. HOWEVER [emphasis mine], this method of dating works ONLY [Emphasis mine again] if each king followed the other in the same year without any breaks in between.

They basically admit that the business records only go to 587 B.C.E but we still won't change it.

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First post / 1914 info

by whichway2go in

my first post here after about 6 months of lurking.

i will comment more and give some more info later, but i am still active, and looking for my way to exit.

i had a question that i'm hoping someone can help with.

Newly Enlightened

Warm Welcome WW2G to you and your family.

I cannot find the book you're thinking of but they did 2 articles in the [Public] WT Oct/2011 pg 26-31 & Nov/2011 pg 22-28 they say the same thing.

If you go to the Nov/2011 pg 23: the footnote right under 'Business tablets' actually says. " None of the secular experts quoted in this article hold that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.E

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What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

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i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

Newly Enlightened

Pyramid Scheme- Your pompous ass sounds like ours, was his initials GF?

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What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

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i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

Newly Enlightened

We had one, that was so arrogant that during an Elder/MS meeting [my husband was a MS at the time] he started talking about a young couple that had started dating in our KH- Bro was 26, sister was only 17. CO disapproved and looked directly at the bro's father and said "We have to think about what we're allowing in our household and not be taken in BLONDE HAIR & BIG BOOBS" of course that family immediately wrote a letter to the WTS and was condemned for it. But the cong was so in love with this CO, that when they left after 3 yrs they gave them a HUGE party and actually sang 'For he's a jolly good fellow' to him and his wife.

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New Member / MS still in...

by Comatose in

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feels real strange typing this.

i was what you all call born in.

i was happy growing up.